Transbay Block 8 Whole Foods Site

It’s true.  The 31,500 square feet of retail to be built at the base of the Transbay Block 8 development includes 22,000 square feet of underground space for a full-service grocery store at the corner of Folsom and Fremont.

Transbay Block 8 Grocery Store Space

And Whole Foods has indeed expressed their interest in being the ones allowed to run the store.

With a groundbreaking slated for the spring of 2016, and an estimated three to four year construction period, the first Transbay District grocery grocery will likely open in 2019, with or without Whole Foods in charge of the space.

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Comments from “Plugged-In” Readers

  1. Posted by Joseph A

    Would rather see a Trade Joes in the sub level , :)

    • Posted by TJ's > WF

      Seriously. There is a Whole Foods 5 blocks away from this location.

      • Posted by anon

        Those are long blocks. It’s 0.7 miles to be exact (1.4 round trip). For a lot of people it means the difference between driving and walking.

  2. Posted by Futurist

    nice! perfect store for this location. I love WF!

  3. Posted by James

    2019!!! Only 20 years after people starting moving into the area – that’s progress

  4. Posted by Sam

    Always with the whole foods

    • Posted by Brad

      Whole Foods does very well here; they would be insane not to express interest smack in the middle of high density housing. Also, nothing is stopping Safeway, Albertson’s, or anyone else from expressing interest.

  5. Posted by BobN

    22,000 square feet of underground space for a full-service grocery store

    Can a full-service grocery store fit in 22,000 sq ft? Apparently the typical suburban Whole Foods, which ranges between 55,000 and 65,000 sq ft, must offer triple-service.

    • Posted by BobN

      Maybe I’m wrong…the Franklin St store is listed at 28,000 sq ft.

    • Posted by Joseph A

      perfect size though for a Trader Joes

    • Posted by Brad

      Whole Foods Haight and Noe Valley are both smaller than Pac Heights. In my opinion Whole Foods packs a lot more diversity into their smaller stores than a similarly-sized Trader Joe’s.

  6. Posted by SFrentier

    WF? WTF!

  7. Posted by eddy

    Columbus Circle WF in NYC has 40k sqft and it’s pretty well packed and lots of space. 22k should be fine for a SF store. Looking fwd to hearing more details of what will fill the space.

    • Posted by anon

      The Lincoln Park Whole Foods in Chicago is 75,000 square feet and is still very crowded. At least they put the store at street level with cafes, seating and a pedestrian park and put the parking up on the roof.

  8. Posted by SFRealist

    All you people complaining about Whole Foods or the size of the store (and I’m sure parking will be next) are experts are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

  9. Posted by Whole Foods & Walgreen's Fatigue

    So where are all of these lower income folks in the affordable housing projects (which this [development includes]) supposed to shop? $20/ lb. cheeses at the Ferry Building? $30/ lb. rack of lamb at Whole Foods?

    • Posted by Brad

      They will continue to shop wherever they shop now. It would be ridiculous to put a Grocery Outlet (or similar) in a location where only a minority of units are “affordable”.

  10. Posted by unlivable city

    Sameness was never a San Francisco value. It isn’t now, either. This is what the dullards of the SF Family, Inc. don’t get. People who move here to shop at Whole Foods don’t really live here. They barely even sleep here. They need to go away.

    • Posted by shza

      Please tell us what percentage of SF’s population “move[d] here to shop at Whole Foods.” I’m curious what the numbers are.

  11. Posted by MDG399

    FAIRWAY MARKET!!!!!!!

  12. Posted by Sierrajeff

    Good lord. For months people on here have complained about lack of retail, and especially grocery, in eastern SoMa / South Beach. Developer proposes a Whole Foods, and it’s rant, cry, complain. FTLOG, get over yourselves. If you have a better idea and/or the money to implement one, go ahead. Otherwise, be glad that something’s being proposed that’s going to improve the status quo.

    (And I really don’t understand all the Trader Joe’s adoration; all the produce I buy from there starts rotting within 36 hours, and the selection of many other items is abysmal. Don’t get me wrong, I love co-ops and such – Rainbow’s great – but TJ’s is a poor implementation of that model.)

    • Posted by Sam

      I think Whole Foods in certain cities is like the second coming, but in SF it’s a bit stale. The inevitable whole foods. I mean, whatever, I never go to this area, and probably will never, but my preference would be for a place like Rainbow to move in. It’s a preference only myself and the readers of this site will ever know about.

      • Posted by Brad

        Then Rainbow should express an interest in it; there’s nothing stopping them.

        • Posted by shza

          WF is a much better fit for this location and this clientele. Places like Rainbow and Berkeley Bowl have their charms, but WF is a much more easy, well-organized, and convenient shopping experience. I’m willing to (and do weekly) pay extra for that. I don’t think TJ’s is even in the same league — I don’t want my meat (or, often, organic produce) pre-packaged in Styrofoam and plastic wrap.

  13. Posted by squigglebird

    Finally, a grocery store the thousands of residents of this area will be able to *walk* to. Such a shame to have high density without the ability to walk for daily errands.

  14. Posted by Bob

    The breakneck speed with which SF evolves is ..well.. break neck. Opening in 2019! What’s the rush?

  15. Posted by Spartaco

    Implement BMR standard to accommodate Berkeley Bowl.

  16. Posted by jamesjr

    Trader Joe’s, please. Whole Foods prices are killing me. There’s a Whole Foods on 4th near Folsom already.
    How about food for the non limo (or big bus) set.

  17. Posted by Whole Foods & Walgreen's Fatigue

    How about a *gasp* farmer’s market supplying *shock* fresh food daily since we are located in *surprise* the agricultural capital of the world, supporting our *sigh* local economy and farmers rather than some Texas republican corporation with an agenda. Nah, can’t have that, must have access to canned eels at all times!

    • Posted by Bob

      I find our local farmers market to be multiples more expensive than whole paycheck. Isnt the whole point of direct from farm, to eliminate the markup?

      • Posted by Sierrajeff

        I always chuckle at the farmers’ market on Clement – you know, the one held in the street, along blocks including Chinese greengrocers’ storefronts… farmers’ market cherries, $6.50 to $8.00 / pound; grocers’ cherries, $2.50 / pound.

        • Posted by Whole Foods & Walgreen's Fatigue

          I shop at my local farmers markets and the produce is lots cheaper than any grocery store, and much fresher. I think it can be done, especially in an outdoor market that this development provides.

          • Posted by Sierrajeff

            I’ve seen farmers’ markets have products grocery stores do not – local cheeses and honey, unusual vegetables – but for items stocked in stores, I haven’t seen items at farmers’ markets be cheaper since the 1990s.

    • Posted by Sam

      Ha isn’t it from Austin? I mean yea Texas, but not Texas Texas

  18. Posted by frog

    For all those who want a farm stand or a TJs, what any sane person would look for first is a place for the basics are consistent and easily available, something both of those lack. I like TJs too, but I don’t live on Cookie Butter and 18 types of hummus and no oregano (I once went there to buy ingredients and their spice section consisted of white pepper, wasabi, sea salt and ginger.)

    The farm stand idea is particularly nuts because everything there would cost twice as much as WF, almost by definition.

    • Posted by R

      And there is a farmer’s market a half mile away three times a week.

    • Posted by Whole Foods & Walgreen's Fatigue

      Then Safeway is clearly the better option as a general grocery. Whole Foods is still a specialty store.

      • Posted by shza

        No it isn’t. Other than big national chain brands (Coke, General Mills, etc.), there’s nothing you can get at Safeway that you can’t get (a much higher quality version of) at Whole Foods (in fact, the only things I buy at Safeway are diet coke and sometimes wine; 100% of my other grocery shopping is done at WF). And the people buying $3M condos in this neighborhood don’t need to scrimp and settle for Safeway’s crappy product.

        I hope you live in this neighborhood and have a personal interest in this, given the amount of inexplicable griping you’re engaging in. To me, WF seems like plainly the most obvious and desirable option for this location. But if it makes you so upset, why don’t you start your own cheap, high-quality farmer’s market and pitch it to the developers; or just keep complaining on a real estate website comment board, whatever.

        • Posted by Futurist

          Yes. Well said.

        • Posted by Roseanne

          Then get in your luxury sedan and jerk merge the whole 5 blocks to the WF on 4th St.

        • Posted by Whole Foods & Walgreen's Fatigue

          “or just keep complaining on a real estate website comment board, whatever.”

          You must be new here! Because that’s all the comments section is.
          Welcome to the party!

  19. Posted by CH

    New Seasons (http://www.newseasonsmarket.com/) or New Leaf (http://www.newleaf.com/)! Better selection and quality than Tader Joe’s, cheaper than Whole Foods. This would be the perfect place for one in San Francisco.

  20. Posted by Naybore

    The green “Whole Foods” indicator over the photo is on the wrong corner. Should be NE corner of Folsom and 1st, or even the closer to Fremont, not NW corner right? Doesn’t match the map next to it.

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