February 13, 2013

Orchard Supply Hardware Coming To SoMa If Approved

While it took over a decade to get a new home improvement store out on Bayshore Boulevard, with the backing of the Planning Department, Orchard Supply Hardware is hoping to get a quick approval to convert the Pacific Sales building at 975 Bryant into a 33,000 square foot OSH with a plant nursery on the roof (click on any image to enlarge).

Other proposed changes to the building at 975 Bryant include landscaping, a new Bryant Street entrance, and a change of windows along Bryant Street to increase transparency:

And while not in the "urban core," the location is in the heart of San Francisco.

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First Published: February 13, 2013 10:15 AM

Comments from "Plugged In" Readers

It is a great store and would be a welcome addition to San Francisco. I am not sure however if there is enough parking. Their Emeryville store attracts a lot of cars. A better location might be out in the Bayview as the typical OSH customer will probably arrive by car as they buy a lot of heavy stuff.

Posted by: Dave at February 13, 2013 11:00 AM

If the retailer is willing to bend their typical parking requirements to gain a great location in SF, I don't see any problem.

Posted by: curmudgeon at February 13, 2013 11:19 AM

I'm completely fine with this. Looks like they're just going to open a smaller store and will need less parking than other places. Seems like a great re-use of the current building/lot

Posted by: anon at February 13, 2013 11:32 AM

Discount Builders Supply has limited parking with 40 spaces or so. It's a bit bigger than this planned OSH and has a more central location. I think parking will be an issue.

Posted by: lol at February 13, 2013 11:49 AM

The parking lot looks like it's designed to prevent queues that overflow into the street.

Posted by: Joel at February 13, 2013 12:05 PM

Why do they need any parking? Why don't they just build some below-market rate, rent-controlled apartments on the parking lot?
Why can't people take their purchases on their bicycles?
Or on MUNI?
Or walk home?
Just a few pieces of wood or garden plants.
Especially the 75 year old retired people. They have all day and nothing to do.

Posted by: conifer at February 13, 2013 1:11 PM

"... the typical OSH customer will probably arrive by car as they buy a lot of heavy stuff."

In my experience most trips to the OSH (or Ace) aren't to buy a lot of heavy stuff. Usually customers are picking up a few parts for patch/repair jobs. (Doggonit ! I need a new left handed fully hydrolized 3/4" smoke shifter!) I can't even remember the last time I drove to buy hardware and while waiting in the checkout line I see most people just have a little handheld basket of merchandise.

beLowes and Home Despot are different since they have a much larger lumber yard and stock more bulk building materials. OSH keeps most of their bulk stuff in a separate warehouse where you drive through to pick up. Perhaps this store doesn't include the bulk warehouse aspect. I can't see it in the rendering above.

Posted by: The Milkshake of Despair at February 13, 2013 1:36 PM

Here we go again - "I don't need to drive to the... therefore no one should have to drive...."

Posted by: emanon at February 13, 2013 2:40 PM

Hmmmm... Is anyone saying that this store should have no parking?

Actually here we go again: If anyone is happy with less than suburban volumes of parking then they are anti-car zealots who want to ban cars.

Posted by: The Milkshake of Despair at February 13, 2013 2:56 PM

When businesses are given the freedom to decide whether or not to have parking, and how much, they may find innovative solutions which use scarce land more effectively, like having large items delivered directly to people's homes from a separate warehouse. This is something which is already done by e.g. IKEA.

In this way, individuals and companies can find new ways of reducing overall costs, which creates benefits for the customers, the companies, and society at large.

Some people call this a "free market" system.

Posted by: Alai at February 13, 2013 4:25 PM

Alai, the market produces an inefficient outcome if the actor is able to externalize the welfare reducing aspects of his product to the rest of society, by, say, causing a queue of cars to back up traffic on a street. Constraints effected by the government that attempt to regulate for those negative externalities may result in the innovation of which you speak. Besides, I do not see anyone here saying that the OSH plan has too much parking; indeed, the design seems to be a clever way to address the constraints imposed by the site.

Posted by: Mr. E. at February 13, 2013 4:45 PM

No argument here.

Posted by: Alai at February 13, 2013 5:03 PM

I like OSH cause the employees seem to know what they are talking about. You rarely find that in Lowe's or Home Depot.

Plus it is faster to get in and out if you need a few things.

I know the SSF store isn't really that busy and they run sales with save the sales tax now and then.

Posted by: inclinejj at February 14, 2013 9:32 AM

Yeah, big fan of OSH as well, very happy to hear they'll be coming to SF!

I doubt parking will be an issue, I went to Pacific Sales once and didn't even know they had a parking lot. I was able to park on the street right in front of their building. This was during the week, on the weekends that area is pretty much empty.

OSH will definitely bring more people, but nothing like TJs.

Posted by: lyqwyd at February 14, 2013 10:56 AM

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