April 3, 2012
299 Valencia Unwrapped
Much of the scaffolding has been removed from around 299 Valencia, the building of 36 one and two-bedroom condos over retail and 27 parking spots on the corner of Valencia and 14th Streets where a surface area parking lot once laid.
As the building was most recently rendered, prior to a bout of VE:
First Published: April 3, 2012 12:00 PM
Comments from "Plugged In" Readers
double helpings of grittiness and reality courtesy of the project next door!
should help the neighborhood though.
Posted by: mister-taco at April 3, 2012 1:06 PM
These will sell quickly, I predict: great location and nice design.
Posted by: futurist at April 3, 2012 1:09 PM
I used to live caddie corner from this lot in the early ninety's and find it pretty shocking that this is now a desirable area.
Posted by: TB at April 3, 2012 1:12 PM
Hope they're still going to build the rendered awning around that column on the corner, looks kind of janky without it.
Posted by: CH at April 3, 2012 1:13 PM
I was relieved to see no awnings. Hope they kill the resort-y awnings. Why make it look like beachside Alameda? (tho it works there).
Posted by: Invented at April 3, 2012 1:43 PM
I'm surprised at the relatively positive reaction here. I find the result significantly more boring than the rendering (which wasn't particularly interesting to begin with).
Losing the blue tint on the windows and the cantilevered balcony roofs on the top floor, and adding those ornamental whatever-the-are along the roofline (which I also preferred with the rendering's lower profile) are all changes for the worse.
Posted by: shza at April 3, 2012 2:07 PM
^^^ correction: they obviously didn't lose the top-floor balcony roofs/shades-- just made them blocky and inelegant.
Posted by: shza at April 3, 2012 2:10 PM
I actually prefer the reality to the rendering.
Posted by: BT at April 3, 2012 2:16 PM
I could care less about the awnings, but that corner column and design is atrocious. Overall bland mission-bay-in-the-misson design in a hip 'hood and another missed opportunity for something distinctive if you ask me.
Posted by: Michael at April 3, 2012 2:17 PM
They could design it after dog poop and people would buy it in this city. Architects don't care about their legacies or aesthetics, it's all about the $$ now.
Posted by: sf at April 3, 2012 2:28 PM
the corner column is pretty bad but cantilevers are expensive... almost every building with a diagonal corner entrance has a pillar in the middle of it. Physics is a bitch sometimes.
Posted by: James at April 3, 2012 2:32 PM
A just unveiled building does not have an interactive website with renderings or photos but rather a "save your place in line button"? Remind me never to go with the realtor selling this place.... who is not even identified. But on the more positive note with this just one block from my house I am trilled.
Posted by: SFLooking at April 3, 2012 2:58 PM
TB, I agree, I used to live on Brosnan Street across the street from this back in the days of the old projects - the goal was to move away from this rundown area not overpay to become a hipster hamster.
Posted by: sfrenter at April 3, 2012 3:27 PM
Like it or not, so called "run down" parts of SF keep changing and will continue to change. That's how great cities evolve.
I'd rather walk Valencia now, full of shops and restaurants with tons of people around than be there a few years ago when it was run down and not safe.
Change is good.
Posted by: futurist at April 3, 2012 4:29 PM
I think that it looks even better in person. Seeing how the first floor finishes out and depending on what sort of shops lease the space, this could be a great improvement to the area.
Posted by: Andreas at April 3, 2012 8:38 PM
I rode my bike past this today and liked it!
Posted by: Dan at April 3, 2012 9:59 PM
"I used to live caddie corner from this lot in the early ninety's and find it pretty shocking that this is now a desirable area."
There were farms still in SF when my grandfather was a kid, and there were no high rises when my parents were kids
So the point I am making is you are just getting old
Posted by: zig at April 4, 2012 9:03 AM
Calling this area "desirable" is certainly a huge stretch! However, since they re-did the Valencia Gardens housing project, and started booting all the drug dealers from public housing nationwide in the 90s, this area certainly is not the war zone it used to be.
Posted by: anon at April 4, 2012 9:10 AM
Seems to me that the main differences in the elevations -thicker spandrels, floor edges and overhangs - have resulted from the realities of wood frame construction vs the PT concrete structure that would be required to produce the proportions shown in the renderings. The V-E'rs win again and a building - and a neighborhood -loses.
Posted by: ukarch at April 4, 2012 9:59 AM
looks like the neighborhood is really changing the the better. this development plus the big one over on 15th and mission are a huge plus for the area.
[Editor's Note: 1880 Mission: Revised Designs And Breaking (New) Ground.]
Posted by: sy at April 4, 2012 11:29 AM
Back in the 80s, I had a friend who lived in this area whom I'd go visit on ocassion. As a fearless teenager, I'd walk down 14th or 15th St at night and routinely be offered "rocks" or "hubba" or "20 shots" on the block between Guerrero and Valencia. Would occasionally hear gun shots and breaking glass coming from within the walled projects as well.
My how times have changed.
Calling this area "desirable" is certainly a huge stretch!
I don't think it's a stretch at all. Maybe not for old folks, but for young professionals who want to live an active, urban lifestyle, this area is VERY desirable. Bike lanes everywhere, good food, good drink, close to public transportation,... Sure it's still gritty in some spots, but nowhere is perfect. Even the most "desirable" neighborhoods have many undesirable attributes.
Posted by: joh at April 4, 2012 1:11 PM
They have a Twitter feed @299Valencia that's mostly stuff about the neighborhood, but today they included a floorplate. Not very high res but you still can get the idea of unit layouts. Looks like it's on their Facebook page as well, while the website still doesn't offer much more than neighborhood activity shots.
Posted by: gimmefloorplanporn at April 4, 2012 3:27 PM
This isn't a great location because the area is still rough and it is at the far end of Valencia, but it is convenient to the much of the attractions of the area. There probably won't be lots of families moving in here, but it is a reasonable first purchase for someone. As for design, it looks just like everything else that is currently being build.
Posted by: NoeNeighbor at April 4, 2012 8:35 PM
This is very close to the future Burma SuperStar that will go in 211 Valencia!
Posted by: formerly%whatever at April 4, 2012 9:38 PM
Way overpriced at over $800 a square foot. Also its build on liquefaction so good luck in the next earthquake.
Posted by: George at April 5, 2012 8:05 PM
How could you know $/sq ft, without knowing the size of the units??? Have they made that info available?
Posted by: J at April 6, 2012 6:34 AM
J i was able to get some information from a friend. Total rip off but i sure some idiots will pay that price - for living off of Interstate-14 (14th St). The "starting at" prices are a joke. Yeah you're paying $600,000 but they dont tell you its for a 500 sqft condo.
Posted by: George at April 6, 2012 8:20 AM