October 5, 2009
The Renovation Of 3855 Washington: Before, After And Inside
While we have the before (above) and after (below) photos for 3855 Washington...
...as promised, the offering now features a few interior shots and a website as well.
∙ Listing: 3855 Washington (6/6.5) - $8,000,000 [3855washington.com] [MLS]
∙ 3855 Washington Joins The Recently Renovated "Heights" Fray [SocketSite]
First Published: October 5, 2009 9:45 AM
Comments from "Plugged In" Readers
Wow, big improvement. Love the new facade, and the interior looks nice too. But who's buying all these multi-million dollar houses? especially in this economy?
Posted by: waiting2nest at October 5, 2009 11:08 AM
IMHO, "before" was much, much better. It was more properly scaled with respect to its neighbors, and didn't have the stupid-looking and vulgar faux French chateau mansard roof.
Posted by: Mark D. at October 5, 2009 11:15 AM
Who's buying? Um, no one!
This project has been in the works since 2007. It does look quite nice and nothing seems to have been done on the cheap based solely on the pictures (but who knows!). I still think the 8 million price tag though was set to be marked down. The purchase price seems to be in the mid/high 2s back in 99 and I really don't think it cost 5 million to build it. A more realistic selling price would be in the 5.5-6.5 range. That said, that house on Locust did sell earlier this year in the 7s was it? Still, this house also suffers from the bane of most south side D7 homes - many, many stairs to the front door.
Posted by: sleepiguy at October 5, 2009 11:25 AM
I kind of agree with Mark.. As I said before, I have a slight problem with the roof line. It's a little - cheesy and not proportional to the windows... or something...
Posted by: sleepiguy at October 5, 2009 11:31 AM
Yes, a little too faux French for my taste too.
But the mansard roof does provide a "pent level." And it works, in a way. It is definitely less massive than a conventional third story would have been. The interior is nice and bright with some well composed spaces. On the whole it looks well done. Wish they had floor plans on the web site.
$8M? Don't think so.
Posted by: salarywoman at October 5, 2009 12:21 PM
It looks like they transported a shop straight out of the Grove in LA - or disneyland.
Is there a trinket shop on the first floor?
Posted by: Joe at October 5, 2009 1:32 PM
Old facade: nice, slightly faded.
New facade: nice, slightly pretentious.
This seems like a relic from the pre-recession days.
Posted by: jlasf at October 5, 2009 2:10 PM
That garage just kills any curb appeal. It would have been nice if they could have somehow sunk parking below in a lower level.
Posted by: anon at October 5, 2009 2:27 PM
$8M for a large, newly remodeled Presidio Heights home on a class A block of Washington is still quite a realistic price. Even more so when compared to other things on the market right now.
Posted by: Mike at October 5, 2009 5:37 PM
I think think they've done a hell of a job (and definitely prefer to new facade and proportions), but it's going to be hard to get their price with no views, and on that block. It's one of the worst blocks of the posh stretch of Washington, and while there are nice houses on the north side of the street, the south side is a real mess.
The interiors appear to be very well planned out and would work extremely well for a family with several kids. From the few photos provided, the space seems unusually "liveable" for a house of this size. Also, good south facing yard. Will be very interesting to see what it goes for.
Posted by: Scooter at October 5, 2009 5:58 PM
It's OK with the faux French roof. But I love the kitchen eating area access to the garden!
Posted by: StockBoySF at October 5, 2009 5:58 PM
The. Prefer THE new facade and proportions. Grrr.
Posted by: Scooter at October 5, 2009 6:00 PM
Looks good to me. I think 8 is an OK starting price. There are buyers out there and it's wise to fish out for them. Someone could fall in love here, but I'd say this is 900-950 psf quality. Since I don't have sqft, I'd have to estimate this at close to $7m. I'll go on record as $6.85 as the sale price. This would put the home at around 7500 sqft by my guestimation. It doesn't feel that big from the pics. Feels more like 6000 sqft. So my range is $5.7 to $6.85. I like my psf price more than my sale price estimates.
Posted by: eddy at October 5, 2009 6:29 PM
If you look at the 'before' picture, you will note that both neighboring houses are painted pink/beige. Now, both are grey. Only the new house is pink/beige. Odd coincidence.
Posted by: jlasf at October 6, 2009 10:58 AM
A lot of renovations attempt "elegant". This one achieves it in spades.
Posted by: BobN at October 6, 2009 11:55 AM
Salarywoman... you were looking for floor plans. They are there.
Posted by: Bonbon at October 6, 2009 12:06 PM
Although I don't think the new facade is necessarily an architectural masterpiece, I'm absolutely shocked that anyone would express a preference for the hideous before facade, faux shutters and all.
Posted by: sf at October 6, 2009 7:19 PM
Sad, more faux history -- once again someone in SF spends a bundle on making architecture pretend to be old. This is more like interior decorating (unfortunately) happening on the exterior...
Posted by: citicritter at October 6, 2009 7:55 PM
Thanks for the floor plan link - so.... where's the elevator? That price, that neighborhood, that depth of renovation - the kitchen two floors above the garage... where's the elevator?
Posted by: long time reader at October 9, 2009 11:00 AM
In Escrow. Someone fell in love.
Posted by: eddy at October 10, 2009 7:54 PM
Wasn't this house started over 2 and a half years ago?
I thought there were lots of problems with it.
Didn't someone die during the renovation in the house?
Posted by: Bob at October 17, 2009 12:01 PM
Looks like it is Active again
Posted by: Bonbon at October 27, 2009 8:21 AM
I saw that too. I was a little shocked to see it go into contract so quick.
Posted by: eddy at October 27, 2009 9:26 AM
Back in contract?
Posted by: eddy at November 11, 2009 2:40 PM
The sale of 3855 Washington closed escrow on 11/25/09 with what appears to be a confidential contract price.
Posted by: SocketSite at November 30, 2009 10:29 AM
If you were impressed with the architecture and/or the ability of this project to fetch top-dollar in this market, get in touch with the architect, Geoff Gibson, Winder Gibson Architects. firstname.lastname@example.org. We work on residential and commercial projects of all sizes, from kitchen remodels up to additions and new homes.
Posted by: geoff at November 30, 2009 2:54 PM
PropertyShark is showing a recorded sale price of $8.1M
Posted by: eddy at March 16, 2010 11:09 AM
Is this back on the market??
Posted by: Denis at October 22, 2011 9:56 AM
Wouldn't surprise me as I'm not sure this was ever moved into; but they did a lot of things to this home; including changing the exterior color, which I like a lot more now.
Posted by: eddy at October 24, 2011 8:48 AM
Yup, now on for 8.9
Posted by: Denis at October 24, 2011 12:07 PM
Look Ma, No View! I'd love to see this place sell for $8.9 and maybe it will. 8.1 was a stretch. The T/H crew are listing this one so who knows as they've had the midas touch it seems here so best of luck. Not sure this qualifies for apple status as there have been a few upgrades here; but all changes seem to be sort of minor paint and design; more than structure and architecture.
Posted by: eddy at October 24, 2011 1:35 PM