Perhaps we’re simply not hip enough to appreciate all the full spectrum of colors inside this “hip urban compound.” Nah.
Regardless, that’s easily changed (the colors, not the hipness). And we’re always suckers for a funky little artist’s studio (not to mention commercial quality Wolf range).
∙ Listing: 2448 Folsom (4/2) – $1,475,000 [MLS]
I saw this house this weekend and it rocks! Does anyone else get a little tired sometimes of the sterile remodeled victorian?
Granted – the artist studio appears better in pictures and will require some investment by the new owners.
Energy, creativity, light and bright. This house is a gem.
I really liked the colors as well. A funky space to be sure.
I do like that the kitchen is “different”, but I dislike the kitchen overall: poor work triangle (limited counter space next to stove, sink is far from stove, etc) and also not enough storage for me (unless there is a hidden pantry or something)… but I like to cook. There’s probably plenty of kitchen storage for those who don’t cook as much.
overall I like the place… would just have to redo the kitchen setup.
FYI – There is a huge pantry room off the kitchen
Nice place, but given the price tag I think the odds are slim that any real art comes out of that “studio.”
Because real art has to be done somewhere cheap? And only the poor and starving can do real art? That comment makes no sense whatsoever.
Nice place, BTW. The outer sections of Folsom are turning into a cool, tree-lined neighborhood. And yes, I do know about the taco truck and gang-related shootings. I don’t work in a taco truck, and am not in a gang, so I don’t really care.
urban dweller:
thanks for the update.
then I love the place but would perhaps add a few cabinets to the kitchen, or maybe change out that island with something with more cabinets and maybe a prep sink.
I like the colors, but the only functional color is the blood red, as you would not have to paint over it when victim to a drive by from nearby (perhaps neighboring?) gang members who are shielded and given money and services and homes and transportation and free schooling and protection for felons at the top levels of City Hall and God knows what else. Every day I get prouder and prouder of my city! I really think Newsom has a vendetta out on us all.
sf –
Wrong blog.
Luckily lots of SF artists seem to be sponsored by some decidedly unartistic parents. The upstairs “fainting room” would come in handy for any non-independently wealthy types deciding to take on this mortgage.
In seriousness, this area is actually quite nice… but I still couldn’t see paying almost $1.5 million to live there. I was just looking for an excuse to mention the typo….
@amused:
Why the bile?
I don’t know too many artists who can plop down $1.5M, but maybe you do. Odds are it gets turned into a techie playroom for some Googlenaire’s kids.
I got google options two years ago at $748/share and last year at $498/share.
The stock is at $468 and falling. Just how much house and techie gadgets can I buy with all my Google riches?
Just about every option Google granted to everyone in the last two years is underwater.
Boy, count that funny money as yet another source of real estate funding that has evaporated.
@Foolio –
No bile on my end. You threw out the accusation:
“I think the odds are slim that any real art comes out of that ‘studio’.”
I collect real art. And more often than not, the artists are FAR from the “starving” romantic ideal. Perhaps the artists you know are, well… just unemployed people with lofty ambitions.
The artist/graphic designer/etc. Rex Ray lives around 20th and Folsom…
@tipster:
Don’t worry, all those underwater options may make you produce really great art. 😉
I live a block and a half away and I can vouch for the hipness and fabulousness of the neighborhood in general. But the park at the corner is a stark reality that not all buyers would want. This whole neighborhood goes block to block. Two blocks away, Shotwell Street, between 21st and 22nd is still near that park, but a world away…debatably the best block in the entire Mish, with trees, detached Victorians, extremely quiet and peaceful. Right out of a movie set.
But this block, although it’s pretty great, is a little close to the corner park, a little loud on Folsom, nearer to the big fire station, and the buffer isn’t all that great. Makes it a different movie. A different world. Amazing, because it’s barely a block and a half away from the best block.
But, yeah. If you’ve been wanting a great place in the Mission, this is really great. I love it.
And I bet lots of art came out of that studio. Just because It’s $1.4m now doesn’t mean it wasn’t $140K fifteen years ago when the artist moved in. 😉
Ditto about the art. I bought my two flat monster one block away for $700K six years ago and it’s worth more than 2448 Folsom now. I bought it with a Visa advance, 10% down, fixed loan, and my lovely tenants who pay me $3100 per month rent help me pay my mortgage so I can *guess what* stay home and produce my art.
There are scores of people like me in the neighborhood who do the same. Even at today’s prices, a two unit with an owner living in one unit pays about the same as renters. Less after taxes.
This corridor of the Mission wasn’t always this expensive, but I love it, and I know it will stay pretty flat in value during this crash, or increase in value. Our area is the best kept secret in the City. Sunniest part of the Mission (which is saying a lot) totally flat, walkable, great bus lines, walkable to BART, easy to the freeways, HUGE lots, gigantic back yards, and most of the flats are around 1800 square feet and up.
Did you know that this is one of the oldest areas in the City? Most every house along this corridor was an extension of the Van Ness Mansions, and was well built, dating to the late 1860s and early to mid 1870s.
Anybody who screams “crime” is talking about near 16th Street or near Chavez Street. This center part of the Mission is quite mellow by comparison. And, sorry to say the politically incorrect fact, but the people involved in the crimes (the perps and the victims) don’t belong to the same social groups as the folks on this list, or the folks buying into the neighborhood for the past ten to fifteen years.
(Was that bad to say? I’m sorry. It’s true. I’m sorry. Don’t hate me. I’m sorry.)
Before people flame you, Lisa… I assume you mean by social groups, gangs?
After 21 years in this neighborhood, the only conclusion I’ve come to about local crime is, if you and your friends generally do not commit crimes, you will never be the victim of one.
All of this reasonable and non-hyperbolic commentary is making me very uncomfortable.
I’ve lived in the Mission for 17 years, and I get what Lisa is saying. I nor any of my friends have been troubled by events in this neighborhood, and I think they are overblown when you compare this neighborhood to the rest of the city. Old old argument. But it’s true. It’s actually racist to call the Mission a high crime area, because it isn’t, it’s right in the middle along with other areas, and so is where the listing is. Just because a crime happens with a brown face and the word gang gets thrown around, even when it isn’t an issue. People need to chill. It’s a friendly neighborhood where all my friends know one another on our blocks, we’re all different colors and backgrounds, all ages, rich, poor, hip and square, and my god where else can you get that in this city? There is a huge baby boom down here, too. Like Noe was back in the 90s when people began to notice.
People who actually live here know it for what it is. I love it! And this place looks ultra cool. So there.
bottom line on violence in the mish: ru part of a gang? drug addict (or look like one?) no? you are generally safe then. i.e. most regular people get a free pass. i live in da ‘hood too, and sometimes even give a small nod to the occasional gang bangers i see hanging out on front stoops. hell, one even asked me about my mini covertible.
it’s a great hood, with lotsa character, and mostly an amiable mix of hipsters, latinos, older characters, crackheads, some soccer moms, artists, alternative biker types, gays, lesbians, few transgenders, and an occasional gangbanger.
p.s. the new dynamo donuts on lower 24th st is the bomb 😉
This neighborhood is a very safe neighborhood if you live in your home, play on the sidewalk with your toddlers, go to the parks, shop at the shops, eat at the high end and low end restaurants — nobody can touch the Mission for restaurants–and walk your dogs. We are overrun with dog loving people. It’s a great place to call home.
If you want to buy and sell hard drugs on the street, party on the street and make a name for yourself in a tricked out car with a boom machine in the back, well hell, you can do that too but you will get your ass kicked eventually or worse. And yes, those people don’t buy houses here, and usually they don’t live here either, except for the occasional teen who, once his parents find out he’s acting up, he gets his ass kicked.
It’s Connelly High School that is an issue. Folsom between 19th and 20th. Many if not most of the students do not live in the area, but they do come to and fro, and while most of them are trying to learn a trade and it’s a great school for that, a lot of them are punnks and gang wannabes.
Nobody goes to the fictional “school down the street” anymore because of the school system in this city. It’s a lottery which disregards where you live. If it pooled a cross section of kids from the actual neighborhood, which it doesn’t, every Mission school would be a quite diverse school. None of the schools in SF are particularly diverse. They are mostly 70% of one group or another.
That’s another blog. But it does effect real estate in a big way, and the Mission in a really major way. Few of the good schools are in this part of town. That may change as families continue to settle in and want to send their kids to school. I too see a huge baby boom of urban parents who don’t want to leave the city to educate our kids. All it takes are parents putting their own kids in the schools to improve them.
If your kid doesn’t go to school there, I guarantee he’s not going to join a gang or have any issues with a gang member. The gangs, what they are, are just groups of kids who get in trouble. They’re not organized. My opinion, anyway.
I love the sun, the people, the art, the life, the way people talk and do creative things. The Mission is great.
@Robin: Sorry, should have been clearer. Don’t doubt that this place was used as an art studio in the past; just doubt that it will be going forward.
The sad reality is that up-and-coming artists are having more and more trouble staying in SF.
I live about six blocks from that property and I train on 20th street three times a week. In fact I just drove by this property. Wow. Nearly $1.5M?
Anyway, I am in this hood a whole lot. There is a terrific taco stand just down 21st. But come on folks. If you live around here you know that 20th street has taken a turn for the worse in the past six months or so. Maybe not at Folsom but very nearby. I think it is just a temporary thing that we seen in cities from time to time, which is that the old guard gets out of jail and has issues with the newer operators doing the same thing. Hopefully that is the case.
Wow – Flug lives in the mission?
“Wow – Flug lives in the mission? ”
Nope, but this part of the Mission is easily walkable from where I live in North Bernal.
Property in contract
This property flew into contract, and it is pretty significant in my book. One point four seven five, on Folsom between 20th and 21st? Wouldn’t you think the Mission would be taking big hits? I did.