February 7, 2008
JustQuotes: We’ve Been Wondering About Window Coverings Too
"On a somewhat related note, why do no new buildings in SF include window coverings? If you think [insert choice of buildings here] is odd looking now, wait till people move in and there's a patchwork of shades/roman blinds/drapes/screens, etc. In Vancouver window coverings are standard on all new buildings and having a consistent look through the building makes it look much better."
First Published: February 7, 2008 10:00 AM
Comments from "Plugged In" Readers
Well, for one thing, quality window coverings are freakin expensive. Mine cost ~ $6k (3 small rooms).
The CC&Rs do regulate window coverings to an extent. And especially with the tinted windows in buildings these days the window coverings are far less noticable. I've never heard of someone looking walking by The Brannan or Watermark and saying "My god, look at the mistmatched window coverings" since the window tint is dark and the coverings are a similar color.
Posted by: anon at February 7, 2008 10:17 AM
My CC&Rs only allow us to put window coverings that have white on the side facing out. It can be any color you want inside but the white on the outside keeps the building looking uniform.
There is nothing worse that seeing a luxury building where some pig pins a torn leapord sheet or faded pink sheet up to block the sun.
Posted by: anonosaur at February 7, 2008 10:36 AM
I've never heard of someone looking walking by The Brannan or Watermark and saying "My god, look at the mistmatched window coverings" since the window tint is dark and the coverings are a similar color.
I do all the time. Check out 199 New Montgomery. Looks like crap.
Posted by: anon at February 7, 2008 10:37 AM
The CC&Rs regulate the Brannan buildings and Watermark.
At Infinity, they will only allow white facing out, no weird patterns either. I would imagine most highrises condos have the same regulations...
Posted by: missionbayres at February 7, 2008 10:48 AM
A few other things that should not be allowed:
1) Cheap white lawn furniture on the balconies.
2) Hanging wet laundry over the railing or clotheslines.
3) Storing crap including bicycles on the balcony.
Posted by: anon at February 7, 2008 10:56 AM
I would have to agree with the JustQuotes comment above. My parents have been heavy investors in downtown Vancouver over the last seven years, and all the condos that they own/invest in come with standard window coverings...vertical blinds, if I remember correctly. The consistent look throughout the building makes a huge difference in its exterior appearance.
I own and live at The Palms, and sometimes it's hard to see from the outside how some owners use drapes, other use wooden shutters, and many others use honeycomb shades. (I know, I know...it sounds superficial, but Adam brought it up). Albeit, they're all white from the outside (a rule that all Palms residents have to abide by), but the look just isn't consistent from the outside. I'll bet The Infinity will have the same inconsistent look as well. The mismatched window coverings, however, won't be an issue with The Millennium because of its mirror reflecting windows.
Posted by: SC at February 7, 2008 10:58 AM
"2) Hanging wet laundry over the railing or clotheslines"
Um, yes, let's discourage people from using a natural means for drying clothes and instead expend loads of energy in doing it instead.
Posted by: Amen Corner at February 7, 2008 12:12 PM
visually this discussion is a interesting contrast to places like Italy where clotheslines and other incongruous elements are simply part of the character
Posted by: zig at February 7, 2008 2:07 PM
"visually this discussion is a interesting contrast to places like Italy where clotheslines and other incongruous elements are simply part of the character" -- not to mention all of their window coverings are all the same: exterior shutters (usually green)
Posted by: soapbox derby at February 7, 2008 2:47 PM
We should also make all buildings within a given area the same three colors.
And make the neighborhoods gated.
And change the name of our city to Walnut Creek.
Posted by: Suburb Boy at February 7, 2008 3:01 PM
"At Infinity, they will only allow white facing out, no weird patterns either. I would imagine most highrises condos have the same regulations..."
I don't think that is actuallyt he rule for the infinity. If I remember correctly, it is some "neutral color" rule. So you could have ranges from white to tan to who knows what is a neutral color. That was one of my big concerns. It's too bad the windoes were not just a bit more reflective as it will have an eclectic look.
Posted by: Tom at February 7, 2008 4:16 PM
"Um, yes, let's discourage people from using a natural means for drying clothes and instead expend loads of energy in doing it instead."
My point proved. There is always someone that will move into a luxury condo and then hang their jockeys on the railing.
Posted by: anon at February 7, 2008 8:05 PM
"My point proved. There is always someone that will move into a luxury condo and then hang their jockeys on the railing."
There are classier ways. Check out any Hong Kong or Singapore hi-rise and you'll see that each balcony is fitted with a rod that pivots out from the balcony for drying clothes. There's no stigma to airing your laundry. It doesn't look tacky when everyone does it with similar equipment.
I've traveled to many places and so far the only other country that I've encountered that consistently machine dries their laundry is Canada. Everyone else air dries, even in cold and wet northern Europe.
I'm starting to think that this air dry stigma in the USA is some sort of conspiracy on the part of the natural gas industry.
Posted by: The Milkshake of Despair at February 8, 2008 8:50 AM
The air dry stigma in the USA is probably a reaction to the fact that a lot Americans lack class and manners.
Posted by: anon at February 8, 2008 5:23 PM
We couldn't agree more. As a Vancouver based builder, Bosa Development typically does include "Solar Shades" in their condos, and will include them in every unit of Radiance at Mission Bay. They appear white from the outside, but one can see through them to the view from the inside. Yes,it is expensive for the builder to provide them for an entire building, but so worth it! Radiance is also including parking, a storage area outside of each unit (so necessary), wiring for surround sound/home theatre, Ceasarstone with full backsplash, Kahrs wood flooring, Kitchenaid Architectural II Stainless Appliances, including Refrigerator, as well as Washer/Dryers.
Posted by: Aleana at February 14, 2008 3:37 PM
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