November 20, 2007

Speaking Of Stucco, Curved Bay Windows, And Fireplaces (1083 Clay)

1083 Clay Street

As it was constructed in 1984 we can't be certain that the claim still holds true, but…

This five-story, eleven unit residential condominium [development at 1083 Clay Street] is the highest wood frame building in San Francisco- standing at 62 feet high. The exterior finish of the building is stucco, painted in shades of gray and off-white. Despite the high density of the neighborhood, this Nob Hill location allows the two top floors of this condominium building panoramic views of the San Francisco Bay.
The design features curved bay windows to retain the fluidity of the street facade for which San Francisco is noted. Vertically, the bay windows alternate with clerestories creating a visual scale consistent with the surrounding older buildings, while allowing an expanded floor to floor deck dimension which is stepped back to layer the facade. The bedrooms are placed toward the back of the building. On the first floor, this relationship is changed, so that the living room can focus on a small formal garden on the outside of the site. Each unit has a fireplace.

And yes, one of the eleven condos (#201) in the Donald MacDonald designed building is now on the market. And no, it’s not on one of those top two floors. But as noted, it does have a fireplace (and parking).

∙ Listing: 1083 Clay St #201 (1/1) - $589,000 [MLS]
Donald MacDonald Building Projects: 1083 Clay Street [donaldmacdonaldarchitects.com]

First Published: November 20, 2007 9:18 AM

Comments from "Plugged In" Readers

This is actually not a bad price. 950sq ft is a rasoanble size and parking is this neghborhood rents for $400/month

Posted by: Spencer at November 20, 2007 9:47 AM

This is such a COOL building! Sophisticated, classy, without being overly chintzy, like some of the other designs I've seen on here. Perfection!

Posted by: claystreet at November 20, 2007 10:27 AM

WHen was this thing built? All the cars in front appear to be from the Jimmy Carter era

Posted by: claystreet at November 20, 2007 10:36 AM

DOH!! First sentence: Constructed in 1984
Looks a lot newer than that, I've never seen this one. Looks great in the pictures

Posted by: claystreet at November 20, 2007 10:40 AM

the HOA's are $540 which seems high for these buildings with no "services". what is the money usually allocated towards in this case?

Posted by: condoshopper at November 20, 2007 10:54 AM

Who was the great photographer? The place just reeks of value unitl you see the H.O.A and calculate what you'll spend in upgrades....

Posted by: Michael L. at November 20, 2007 11:12 AM

Posted by: claystreet at November 20, 2007 10:40 AM

the HOA's are $540 which seems high for these buildings with no "services". what is the money usually allocated towards in this case?

The HOA is residual income for the builder LOL

Posted by: Michael L. at November 20, 2007 11:16 AM

I've passed by this building many times. The stairway in the main enty way of the building is daunting. You would definitely have to be up for the commitment of dealing with it every day to get in and out of the building.

Posted by: seehsee at November 20, 2007 11:20 AM

Michael: For a fairly lively debate on HOA fees, see the recent posting entitled "But Did He Have Special Assessment Insurance? (1101 Green Street)". It might provide some possible answers to your question.

Posted by: seehsee at November 20, 2007 11:25 AM

Am I the only person that thinks this place is hideous?

Ugh - one of the best examples of how bad the PoMo design of the 80s can be...

Posted by: ejay at November 20, 2007 11:32 AM

I went to an open house for a unit in this building many years ago and wasn't too impressed. The unit I saw was probably different - can't tell from the pics - but just wasn't terribly impressed with the look / feel of the unit. But I am pretty sure the price was more for the one i was looking at - this unit's price seems fairly competitive. Anyway, the interior seemed dated but you could probably address that..

Posted by: sfel at November 20, 2007 11:38 AM

ejay: Some people find Transamerica and Golden Gate Bridge hideous. Nothing is universal :-)

Posted by: claystreet at November 20, 2007 11:38 AM

i find the transamerica building hideous, but i like the GG bridge and this building.

Posted by: yao at November 20, 2007 1:11 PM

Spencer - I have in building parking for $200/mo. a Taylor & Washington. Mine seems cheap, for the area, but $400/mo. sounds too high for Nob Hill to me...

This picture shows better than the physical property to me.

Posted by: Slatts at November 20, 2007 1:20 PM

This picture makes this building look much nicer than it is. We have friends right around there and seriously - in real life - this building looks cheap and dated.

Posted by: Shawna at November 20, 2007 3:20 PM

Please, I lived through the 80's. I don't need to repeat it again.

Posted by: anon at November 20, 2007 4:24 PM

All those windows and nothing to look at.

Posted by: bgelldawg at November 20, 2007 5:02 PM

Does that 1979 pink ford pinto come free as an incentive?

Posted by: Spencer at November 20, 2007 5:16 PM

>>"Does that 1979 pink ford pinto come free as an incentive?"

That would make two fireplaces!

Seriously, though, the design is ideosyncratic and not what I'd call pretty, but compare it to the lookalike commodity condos rising south of the Slot. If I was in the market for a 1 bdrm condo, I know I'd check this one out.

Posted by: Noe 94131 at November 20, 2007 5:58 PM

Noe 94131-please tell me you are a native and over 50. If not please refrain from saying "south of the Slot"

Thanks

Posted by: zig at November 20, 2007 7:25 PM

Native? As in Native American? Because those are the only TRUE natives...

Posted by: Noe 94131 at November 20, 2007 9:07 PM

zig:

what's wrong with saying "South of the Slot"?

I used to hear that all the time before people started calling it "South of Market" and before people started imitating NYC and London shortening it to SoMa...

FWIW: "The Slot" isn't naughty... (clean your minds, young bretheran), it refers to the slot in the street where the old cable cars ran...

I find "south of the slot" to be refreshing!

Posted by: ex SF-er at November 21, 2007 7:56 AM

go look up slot on the urban dictionary

Posted by: james at November 21, 2007 8:20 AM

james...

I know the slang vernacular of "the slot" that's why I wrote "The Slot isn't naughty".

would you rename "Coit Tower" too, since it sounds so similar to "coitus"?

Or "Nob Hill"?

Look up "Nob" in the urban dictionary...

How about "Tender Loin"

some of these words are only naughty if you want them to be that way!

:)

Posted by: ex SF-er at November 21, 2007 8:35 AM

you forgot my favorite. tender nob!

Posted by: james at November 21, 2007 8:37 AM

ROFL.

Yes, SF locales are colorful if nothing else.

I will never forget your favorite tender nob.

(I'm just kidding... I've gotta get my mind north of the slot)

Posted by: ex SF-er at November 21, 2007 8:50 AM

Hey! Someone stole my name!

Zig, I am just 50. I'm not a native, but I moved here in 1958. Do I have your permission to use the phrase? Thanks ever so.

Posted by: The 1st Noe 94131 at November 21, 2007 8:56 AM

One of the funny things about this town is that everyone who moved here from somewhere else assumes that everyone moved here from somewhere else.

Posted by: DavidQ at November 21, 2007 9:04 AM

This has turned into an "only in San Francisco" thread. What is it about this city that makes some so judgemental regarding how we can and cannot name a neighborhood? You would think we would have more important issues to worry about (crime, homeless, MUNI, etc.)?

Posted by: anon at November 21, 2007 9:13 AM

anon... I think James was kidding. lighten up!

Posted by: ex SF-er at November 21, 2007 9:20 AM

OLD SAN FRANCISCO, which is the San Francisco of only the other day, the day before the Earthquake, was divided midway by the Slot. The Slot was an iron crack that ran along the center of Market street, and from the Slot arose the burr of the ceaseless, endless cable that was hitched at will to the cars it dragged up and down. In truth, there were two slots, but in the quick grammar of the West time was saved by calling them, and much more that they stood for, "The Slot." North of the Slot were the theaters, hotels, and shopping district, the banks and the staid, respectable business houses. South of the Slot were the factories, slums, laundries, machine-shops, boiler works, and the abodes of the working class.


...


I'm guessing much of today's South of the Slot "working class" slings code for a living. Anyways the whole short story is online, Germinal meets Steppenwolf in a dark alley behind the Palace Hotel.
Jack London's South of the Slot

Posted by: emmett_brown at November 21, 2007 9:50 AM

I was just messing around

Seriously, I come from a large family and the only person I have ever heard even use this terminology is my 92 year old grandfather and he only uses it in a past tense as in "We used to call this South of the Slot"

It sounded a little funny and pretentious but please proceed. I was kidding

Posted by: zig at November 21, 2007 9:51 AM

Actually, I could live with just about everything about this place except for the severe shortage of closet space.

Posted by: redseca2 at November 21, 2007 9:56 AM

And soma? "All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects."

http://www.huxley.net/soma/somaquote.html

http://www.huxley.net/bnw/index.html

Posted by: emmett_brown at November 21, 2007 10:12 AM

only douchebags and realtors use the term "SOMA"

Posted by: spencer at November 21, 2007 10:47 AM

I'll take "SoMa" over "NoPa" any day.

I'm definitely tiring of every neighborhood having to be named with 4 letters of alternating vowels/consonants.

But I'll take both of those before I'll take "Frisco".

And I'd rather hear "Frisco" before I hear another "XXX adjacent"

Posted by: ex SF-er at November 21, 2007 12:07 PM

I have my doubts about 62 feet being the highest wood frame building in SF. Most of those buildings on Nob Hill from the 1920's are wood frame, and many of them are over 62 feet.

Posted by: J at November 21, 2007 1:56 PM

1083 Clay Street #201 closed escrow today (2/5/08) with a reported contract price of $589,000 (asking).

Posted by: SocketSite at February 5, 2008 2:15 PM

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