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Gosh, that is dining room challenged, isn't it. I like the bedrooms, but I don't like tripping over the dining room table on the way to bedroom #2.

Finally, some sanity is coming back to the market. 780 psf, and add in some upgrades and a couple of years of HOAs, even at the initial low teaser HOA rate, and it starts looking pretty good, as it ends up something south of 750psf.

And can't you just use the "study" as your dining room? If the view isn't that dazzling, the landlocked study would be just as good. If so, the layout is fine.

Where are these listed on the MLS? Do you have to be a realtor to find them? They're not on the public version of sfarmls.com.

They should have made that two bedroom unit a spacious one bedroom instead of cramming all those rooms into 1100 square feet. I still love those curves.

Any word on Infinity move in dates?

Is this mid-08

$800 S/F is not bad considering the building and the location. I wonder when did they release these units. When I last looked, they were offering lower floor units without a view for close to under $1000 S/F.

800 S/F at the Infinity. I guess the sky must be falling.

I picked up a 9th floor Infinity unit in the high rise without a view for about $731 pSqft 6 months ago. And, my unit has a partial view, so these prices are actually higher than I would expect.

Also, when I was looking, I was concidering getting 5A (right above 4A); it was priced at $900k at that time. So, these prices are actually rising, it's just that most people don't talk about the lower end units.

Tom as a 'plugged in' guy do you have insight on the timing of your unit?

I think you are right the steady rise seems to be continuing on the lower units.

And yet I've heard they're only 60 percent sold.

The response re move in date has not changed over the last 6 months. They continue to say that they are on schedule and that the buidling will open in early 08'.

I beleive that they really are on track as they had told me when they expect to top out, and when they expect to remove the crane. Both of those things have come and gone within a week of when they said it would happen.

I walk by on my way home from work about twice a week and I can say, however, that the second tower has been stalled at the first floor for about a month or so. Not sure if they concrete guys get a vacation after the first tower, but they are just doing no work at all.

tipster, i hope you were being sarcastic in your response where you were suggesting using the Study as the Dining Room. there is no way to fit a normal table in there and have seating on both sides, and others' observations about the ridiculousness of tripping around a table in the LR to get to a bedroom are spot on. this is really bad design. that round DR table they show is accurate in that you can only get 4 people around that area anyway - the met is similar in layout for 1BR's and it is TOO small to really live there (living there also meaning having dinner with other than you + 3 people around a crammed small table). also, does anyone realize how small the closets are in the BR's?? T.I.N.Y. for such an interesting exterior, this already-tired and cramped interior design is sad. i've looked at new high rise dev's in chicago and miami, and sf is pathetically uncreative in comparison - even for million dollar or more units.

That's why it's at bargain basement prices :-).

A minor changes of the kitchen layout can make it a eat-in kitchen and eliminate the need for dining room.

"tipster, i hope you were being sarcastic in your response where you were suggesting using the Study as the Dining Room. there is no way to fit a normal table in there and have seating on both sides, and others' observations about the ridiculousness of tripping around a table in the LR to get to a bedroom are spot on."

Are you kidding? Wanting to buy a 2 bedroom for under one million and expecting a dining room. Which planet are you on? Everyone wants to live here - with or without the dining room.

John - I agree with your proposed concept about eliminating part of the kitchen to go eat-in, but realistically, it's not possible. The sink/plumbing is there and can't be moved due to the type of construction, so the owner is stuck with it the way it is.

Anon 9:21 - So people who can afford $900K+ condos should tough it out and eat on their couch? Standing up? Even 1-bed rentals everywhere else in the city have either dining rooms or large enough kitchens (and correct layouts) to be eat-in. Small NYC places aren't designed like this Metropolitan/Infinity crap either. And the closet in the 2nd bed is only probably 3 feet wide! People who can affort $900K+ don't have clothes? Puh-leez.

What is the big deal with this floor plan? It's not great but you can work around it. You're not stuck with the same furniture that's indicated in the floor plan. Get a smaller coffee table for starters. Use your imagination!

RealScoop,

So the plumbing under the sink goes directly through the floor? If that's the case, then you are right - cannot be moved.

That's quite a stupid design then.

meh. That's a 900K view?

You guys are so funny. It's like trying to conduct a rational analysis of the business prospects of pets.com with frantic buyers of their stock. You are trying to sway emotions with rational arguments and it's never going to happen.

Look around you: this is just a speculative frenzy. People don't want to miss out so they buy...the Heritage on Fillmore: a high rise consisting largely of an in-unit hallway surrounded by low income housing projects and a run down Safeway, or a building next to a freeway on-ramp in one of the most desolate parts of town, or even worse, the Berry street project going up RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRAIN TRACKS (that should be real peaceful) with views of an abandoned swampy ditch.

This is just product created for speculators with dollar signs in their eyes or people who are mathematically challenged: who think buying a place in the city to use once or twice per month like the Watermark will be "a good investment" (without thinking it will be cheaper and easier to rent a suite once per month at a good hotel).

These people gave little thought and don't much care about real liveability of the space. They just don't care.

This product is being created for people with dollar signs in their eyes, or an emotional need to "own". If they put the dining room table over the bathtub in the models, people would buy it. They just don't care. They want to own something and they don't much care what it is. People wanted to buy any dot com stock at teh end: they didn't much care what it was.

Bad views? Who cares. Bad layout? Why should that matter any more than zero path to profitability mattered at the end of the dot com boom. The product is going up to serve a market niche that has arisen as a result of a frenzy, just like all those companies that came around at the end of the dot com boom. These places have a niche which they serve well.

I've been wasting my breath on well-reasoned analysis. This is just an emotional purchase. And if it makes you feel good to buy anything you can get your hands on, then by all means, you should go ahead.

If a lottery ticket makes you feel like you might be rich someday, then go buy one. Lots of them are sold. And who are we to give you the probability tables. The lottery has been a bad investment for 25 years. People continue to buy tickets. They'll be buying them long after we're all dead and gone.

So what, these units are ridiculous. They continue to make SOMEONE feel good when they buy them. I say, I'm all for helping people feel good.

"If a lottery ticket makes you feel like you might be rich someday, then go buy one. Lots of them are sold. And who are we to give you the probability tables. The lottery has been a bad investment for 25 years. People continue to buy tickets. They'll be buying them long after we're all dead and gone."

Wow, what a pathetic analogy, the lottery and SF condo purchase? HA! I think it's more like craps, or bj or somthing with better odds.

Tipster's take on this topic sounds highly critical when, at the end, he/she's "all for helping people feel good? That doesn't add up.

Also, "well-reasoned analysis" is most definitely an integral part of real estate (or any) purchase but to purchase without emotion is like driving without a gas pedal. Who wants to live in a home/unit that doesn't excite?

I think Tipster has gone off the deep end.

Yes, perhaps Tipster has. But you have to admit, he's always amusing.

Guys, let's not dis tipster. It's weekend, time to rush to some open houses. And bring your checkbooks for the bidding war......