December 29, 2006
New Homes In The New Year (1587 15th Street)
1587 15th Street (at Mission) is a collection of 24 new condominiums (one and two bedrooms) that are expected to hit the market in January (pricing “from the $500,00’s”). Floor plans available online, but other than that, not a whole lot we can report.
∙ 1587 15th Street [1587living.com]
First Published: December 29, 2006 10:00 AM
Comments from "Plugged In" Readers
Looks nice from the picture! Definitely something to brighten up a fairly bedraggled stretch of Mission.
Posted by: zzzzzz at December 29, 2006 5:08 PM
Unless I missed something in the floor plans, it looks all of the units have only one bathroom, even the two-bedroom floorplans. No thanks.
Posted by: deshard at December 30, 2006 7:25 AM
On top of the small size making a 2nd bath impossible, could the number of baths be limited by the city based upon the size of the site? Also it looks like no individual washers and dryers in each unit. I know it is early days and the plans may evolve, but they are tight. At least the 2 bedrooms seem to have decent rectangular living/dining rooms as opposed to the recent spate of plans with nearly square spaces where you can't easily fit a table as well as lounge seating. The 1 bedroom plus den though has the usual problem of a cut-up space with kitchen/living/dining all jammed together into too small a space. When will the designers of buildings like this get into the 21st century and give buyers space to live, not just one more tiny room on top of too many others?
Posted by: Tom at December 30, 2006 11:16 AM
Look forward to the possibility of even more tiny units with single baths and crammed-in designs. The currently-up-for-approval Market/Octavia plan, which will rezone much of the central part of SF, including parts of the Mission, Hayes Valley, Duboce Triangle and upper Market, has NO upper limit on the number of units that can be stuffed into a new building, and no requirement for parking. (40% of new units must be 2-bedroom, but there is no requirement for more than one bath in any unit.) Market economics will determine whether developers decide to take advantage of the new rules by cramming as many units as possible into the available lot space (with NO parking), or whether they offer more spacious designs.
Posted by: Dave at January 1, 2007 3:06 PM
I wonder if the units come with bullet proof vests as well?
Posted by: David at January 1, 2007 10:40 PM
I also look forward to tiny units with "only" one bathroom located in transit friendly places. They help provide some balance to a real estate market dominated by housing available only to the upper class. Granted, 500K isn't really "affordable", but it's going in the right direction.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 3, 2007 7:04 AM
Good point Anonymous at 7:04. I still would like to see the more affordable designs not have tiny bedrooms and/or "dens" that nobody would really want to purchase, and fear that this development will start prices well above $500K in order to make its numbers (not including the BMR units).
Posted by: Tom at January 3, 2007 9:24 AM
Yes, more affordable and transit convenient... the rooms do look small, but if its in the lower 5's for a 2BD I'll welcome it. Anyone know the HOA?
Posted by: cd at January 4, 2007 3:59 PM
I checked out a whole bunch of the units this weekend. They were all very livable, and for the price, some of the best housing in the City at the moment IMHO. Comfortable and practical homes for the urbanite who may not have big bucks in the bank.
The corner units are spectacularly bright. Some of the back units have great eastern views. Several 2nd floor units have huge outdoor decks (you pay dearly for them). For no good reason, windows in bathroom don't open. Most (all?) units have two entries -- side-by-side doors in the hallway. Kitchens are not high end, thank God -- I can't take any more six-burner Viking pretensions. One bathroom, yes, but my momma taught me to share and that patience is a virtue, so one bathroom is fine.
Other people viewing the units looked friendly and sensible -- good San Franciscans, the kind of folks you'd want to have as neighbors.
This part of the Mission has nowhere to go but up. It's still one of the more interesting places to live in the City, in spite of the challenge of street "grit."
Posted by: Matt // le blog exuberance at January 8, 2007 10:06 AM