January 19, 2012
Construction Commences On The Decades-Old "Hole In The Ground"
Construction has commenced at the corner of Market, Noe, and 16th streets. Known as the "Hole in the Ground" for the past three decades following the fiery demise of the church that once occupied the site, as plugged-in people know, it’s a five-story building with 18 residential units over ground floor retail that’s being built (click rendering to enlarge).
It’s an Ian Birchall and Associates design that's rising. And no, the parallels between 2299 Market Street and what's happening with 1601 Larkin don’t end there, but we are keeping our fingers crossed that the "decades-old" bit ends up being unique.
∙ 2299 Market As Proposed, Opposed, And Recommended By Planning [SocketSite]
∙ Designs For The Castro’s "Hole In The Ground" (2299 Market Street) [SocketSite]
∙ An Attempt To Settle
For With San Francisco's Planning Commission? [SocketSite]
First Published: January 19, 2012 8:30 AM
Comments from "Plugged In" Readers
What? No Bi-Rite renderings this time ;) ?
I assume the location wouldn't be appropriate for a Trader Joe's due to their extravagant need for parking. Too bad, it would be a great complement to the Farmer's Market across the intersection.
[Editor's Note: It's funny you should mention the Bi-Rite renderings, for as some might recall, 2299 Market Street was once rendered with an Apple store in mind.]
Posted by: lol at January 19, 2012 9:49 AM
I love Store! It's a great place to buy Things after lunch at Cafe and a drink at Bar.
(Also: nicely cantilevered corner windows.)
Posted by: James at January 19, 2012 9:55 AM
Boycott STORE because they sell COMMODITY extracted by slave labor from DEVELOPING COUNTRY.
Glad to see this finally being built. Residential over retail is the right formula for this location. Would have been nice to be a couple of stories taller though.
Posted by: The Milkshake of Despair at January 19, 2012 10:17 AM
Now I am feeling old, but yes I lived in that hood in 1980...it has been 30 years already. Man how time moves along.
"...And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,And in short, I was afraid".
Posted by: Wow 30 YEARS at January 19, 2012 10:22 AM
Bar! Wow man I remember that place. We used to party there. Crazy times.
Nicely designed, and in my opinion, best use.
Posted by: Billyballs at January 19, 2012 10:25 AM
FINALLY! I was just driving by 'the pit' the other day and was reminded about how insane it was that this hole on a busy corner had not been redeveloped already.
Good to hear that construction has finally begun.
Posted by: badlydrawnbear at January 19, 2012 10:25 AM
Is it just me, or is this another Ho-Hum design that looks just like every other mid-size development being built or considered in the city? Is it the Planning Dept, Economics or something else that results in these un-remarkable buildings? (Though, I admit, its still better than a vacant lot.)
Posted by: CC at January 19, 2012 10:28 AM
I don't think this is anticipated to be a place where you BUY things, but rather one where you STORE things.
This will be a great spot to have a condo.
Posted by: A.T. at January 19, 2012 10:59 AM
Is it too much to ask for something more exciting in this prime location? probably.
Posted by: etslee at January 19, 2012 11:05 AM
I'm going to miss the sunken Christmas-tree lot.
Posted by: BobN at January 19, 2012 11:08 AM
Should have become a park for people to sit, drink their coffee and read, or at least it could have been a park for thirty years. What a waste.
Posted by: Marten at January 19, 2012 11:12 AM
The cantilevered corner window looks like a giant glass piston ready to play a nasty trick on prospective STORE shoppers.
Posted by: lol at January 19, 2012 11:16 AM
Nice color scheme in the rendering. Kinda makes me think, "Go Browns!" (There's always next year.)
Posted by: [anon.ed] at January 19, 2012 11:30 AM
anon: i haven't been paying attention, do the niners no longer use gold and red?
Posted by: EH at January 19, 2012 12:13 PM
[anon.ed], your roots are showing...
Posted by: lol at January 19, 2012 12:23 PM
looks like a lot of brown and orange to me
Posted by: [anon.ed[ at January 19, 2012 12:24 PM
I remember there was a small theater space in teh basement of that church and I actually saw a first run of a Sam Shepard play there. "Buried Child" as I recall.
Posted by: redseca2 at January 19, 2012 12:42 PM
So happy! Have lived in the neighborhood since 85 and around the corner on Noe since 2000. Will be so glad to have something there. Really. At this point I really would be happy with any sort of building at all.
Design is pretty typical but clean.
Posted by: wc1 at January 19, 2012 2:14 PM
It would be nice if the architects in this city played with something other than legos as kids. But it certainly is better than a hole in the hood.
Posted by: MissionMan at January 19, 2012 2:58 PM
I hope STORE becomes bar that plays Lady Gaga and Rhianna and has original nightly events like drag night and karaoke.
Posted by: NIMBY at January 19, 2012 10:23 PM
I agree with NIMBY's 10:23pm posting.
The only way we can maintain cultural and racial diversity in the 'Stro is to have Les Natali (Badlands/Toad Hall/Patio(??)) or the trio of Oracle Gazillionaire's (QBar/Midnight Sun/The Edge et al) buy a bar and make it look like every other bar.
Posted by: Brid at January 19, 2012 10:58 PM
Wait for the DTNA to open their mouths again and start trouble - This will be another example of Peter Cohen attempting to control what people can do with their property. Everyday another storefront goes vacant on Upper Market Street and still DTNA fights every single project that is proposed on Upper Market and wants to control what home owners can do in DT. Open your eyes people, he is lobbying the Board of Sups to get a position on the Planning Commission - if this happens there will NEVER be any new development in the City. Speak up or lose your voice - call or write Scott Wiener and the other Sups and let them know you vote & you don't support Peter Cohen's ideas or anyone who supports Peter Cohen!!!
Posted by: Karl at January 20, 2012 8:22 AM
This is the Castro side, not the Duboce Triangle. How can DTNA have anything to say? Do we have another self-anointed Napoleon in this town?
Posted by: lol at January 20, 2012 8:56 AM
My DTNA newsletter is expressing serious "concerns" about STORE and has sparked a "concerned" discussion on whether STORE is, in fact, formula retail, and if so, should STORE be granted a preliminary injunction for a waiver to undergo a study to determine if a Phase III "Brando" escalation clause would be in effect for STORE. It asked for my involvement and encourages me to express my "concerns" and says it is in "ongoing discussions" with STORE, Supervisor Wiener, Supervisor Emeritus Dufty, the Market/Octavia High Council of Elders, and all "concerned stakeholders."
As for STORE, they're nice, but I think they're a bit pricey. I'll continue to shop at DISCOUNT STORE.
Posted by: Kurt Brown at January 21, 2012 12:48 PM
There's frequently a weird rubbery smell when you walk by that corner. Anyone know that that is, or if it will get fixed with this?
Posted by: fork at January 22, 2012 1:55 PM
Sometimes the guy that sells tennis rackets on that corner smells a little funny, but I wouldn't call that "rubbery" :)
Posted by: Kurt Brown at January 22, 2012 2:54 PM