October 13, 2009

1409 Sanchez Meets Its Maker (But Not Because Of The Storm)

1409 Sanchez: 10/13/09 (www.SocketSite.com)

A plugged-in tipster reports: "They started knocking down 1409 Sanchez today. There is a huge machine on site and the structure is pretty much already gone." As it looked before:

1409 Sanchez As Currently Is (www.SocketSite)

And once again as was previously proposed:

1409 Sanchez: Plan

A Total Noe Fixer/Tear-Down (For A Little Less Than Two Years Ago?) [SocketSite]
The Future Façade Of 1409 Sanchez (Assuming Approved And Built) [SocketSite]

First Published: October 13, 2009 6:15 PM

Comments from "Plugged In" Readers

Hopefully they paid somewhere in the 700s for it.

[Editor's Note: The last sale of which we know (and was recorded) was for $875,000 in September of 2008.]

Posted by: anonn at October 13, 2009 6:36 PM

what a piece of garbage the new building will be...thank you planning department and thank you all you historical preservation nuts.

Posted by: noearch at October 13, 2009 7:20 PM

On the same day the Blue Church went down as well!

Posted by: pjpfeifer at October 13, 2009 8:02 PM

wow, that was quick. and i didn't even hear it half a block away.

Posted by: EH at October 13, 2009 8:06 PM

@ noearch -

I agree completely. Will you go so far as to say you prefer the Saitowitz at Mission/17th to this... execrable example?

Posted by: amused at October 13, 2009 9:19 PM

Blandtastic!

Posted by: ph goat at October 13, 2009 11:23 PM

The wind must have knocked it down.

Posted by: NoeValleyJim at October 14, 2009 12:26 AM

That small, blue building in the upper photo....will that be part of the new structure?

Posted by: jonj at October 14, 2009 2:55 AM

I like it. All the greenery really makes it pop.

Posted by: Tim at October 14, 2009 6:53 AM

The Vic brackets (corbels?) make this building historically accurate. Seems to take its queue from a remuddled neighbor to the right (alum windows shingles -- whatever). Marina style with a touch of Vic for that San Francisco thing they do ove there.

Posted by: invented at October 14, 2009 7:44 AM

"I agree completely. Will you go so far as to say you prefer the Saitowitz at Mission/17th to this... execrable example?"

I for one happen to love concrete and glass. Not everyone is into synthetic stucco and siding. Trends come and go, quality materials and unique design, however, will always be welcome in my book. Love it or hate it, it makes the City better. Enough with the pseudo intellectualism and the Saitowitz bashing. If you people have issues with the quality of his work or its functionality, than describe such issues specifically and intelligently. If you simply feel that concrete appears "cold" then its nothing more than a personal taste which doesn't have to be expressed daily. What next, a discussion of shoe fashion? Move on.

Posted by: Natalie at October 14, 2009 7:49 AM

There was a 0% chance for creativity at this location. I did a tear down 2 blocks from there, and had to do a complete redesign of the facade to make it look victorian to match the neighborhood. The block I was on had mostly craftsmen, and I was bringing in some of those details. No way, not allowed, it needs to be a fake VIC. I even told planning that these things look good on paper and then cheap in person, they don't care.

Posted by: sparky-b at October 14, 2009 8:49 AM

@ Natalie -

We're in complete agreement. Look at the thread about the Saitowitz building - which I love. I think any Victorian built after Queen Victoria died is a tragedy.

Posted by: amused at October 14, 2009 9:01 AM

"I for one happen to love concrete and glass." Sounds like an emotional argument to me, much like a "discussion of shoe fashion". How about an intellectual discussion describing what you find so intriguing about Saitowitz?

Posted by: eastbaymike at October 14, 2009 9:03 AM

(To the editor, sorry for fo hijacking the thread.)

Posted by: eastbaymike at October 14, 2009 9:05 AM

1. No, I dont particularly like any of Saitowitz's work..sterile, not humane, terribly regimented, bland, and basically an extension of his inflated ego. ok?

2. sparky-b: are you a licensed architect? I think your statement is 100% in error. There is always room for creativity, in the right hands of the right architect..and no, I dont put contractors who have a draftsman on hand in that category. While the drawing we see is just a crude drawing, it is a dismal attempt at a 2 unit building that attempts to conform to the LOWEST standards of the residential design guidelines, in an attempt to "just get it built"..Plenty of clients and contractors alike prefer this gutter mentality.

Unfortunately.

Posted by: noearch at October 14, 2009 9:06 AM

Well, as long as all the exterior window trim, etc is made of that fake wood/blown styrafoam, then perhaps we can call it post-modern-ironic-tacky architecture, something you'd perhaps see in Vegas. Hell, in the art world this would fly...Jeff Koons Michael and Bubbles sculpture anyone? (but at least it's hidden inside a museum, and you're not forced to see it like a building.)

Posted by: 45yo hipster at October 14, 2009 10:01 AM

@jonj. Eeewww ! I know, those mobile potty / "johns" are gross, aren't they.

They stink up the whole neighbourhood until the construction is (if ?) completed...

Very unhygienic too. We put a man on the moon, but we still haven't invented a better system for Construction Workers to "go" ?

Posted by: Chad at October 14, 2009 10:13 AM

Blah, Blah, Blah... PUKE!

Posted by: rumble at October 14, 2009 11:17 AM

It's not so noticeable in the diagram, but the new design is a lot larger than its neighbors. In the diagram it shows the sections that are set far back as if they were right on the street. That alone marks it as being a 'fake', but then I guess everyone wants to maximize square footage.

Posted by: Alexei at October 16, 2009 12:20 AM

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